This may work for you.
You can find them at http://www.widgetsupply.com
Opps!!! I just clicked Don's link above. It looks like he beat me to it.
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| Author: | John Mayes [ Thu Mar 10, 2005 6:56 pm ] |
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I dig em. Where can you buy em and anyone know how much they cost? |
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| Author: | Tim McKnight [ Fri Mar 11, 2005 12:16 am ] |
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Do you have a picture of one? |
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| Author: | John How [ Fri Mar 11, 2005 12:37 am ] |
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According to Mr Hoffman, you can buy them from Taylor. |
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| Author: | Dave Rector [ Fri Mar 11, 2005 12:59 am ] |
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I've never seen one. A picture would be nice. |
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| Author: | tl507362 [ Fri Mar 11, 2005 1:52 am ] |
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You can see them at Charlie Hoffman's site here: http://www.hoffmanguitars.com/linings-432.jpg John, I could probably manufacture these for you, or for everyone if I had enough interest. Tracy |
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| Author: | jfrench [ Fri Mar 11, 2005 2:01 am ] |
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Those don't look like they'd work any better than those clips you get from the office supply store, and apparently they still need rubber bands. Regards, Joshua French |
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| Author: | John Mayes [ Fri Mar 11, 2005 2:13 am ] |
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They are not as wide as the binder clips which is a big deal to me as I'm need to use them on ukes too which have really tight curves, and any kind of gaps in the kerfing is unacceptable. |
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| Author: | Don A [ Fri Mar 11, 2005 3:31 am ] |
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John, I'm using small spring clamps with swivel heads. More expensive than building the Taylor type but they work well. Spring clamps |
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| Author: | Roy O [ Fri Mar 11, 2005 3:51 am ] |
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This may work for you.
You can find them at http://www.widgetsupply.com Opps!!! I just clicked Don's link above. It looks like he beat me to it. |
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| Author: | John Mayes [ Fri Mar 11, 2005 4:08 am ] |
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yeah I've seen these and I have about 200 spring clamps used for kerfing, and while they work fine I'm always looking for a better way. I figure clamps that were specifically made for the job would be perfect! Thanks for the suggestions.. I'll e-mail Taylor and see if they sell em.... |
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| Author: | TomS [ Fri Mar 11, 2005 4:23 am ] |
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I don't know anything about the Taylor clamps, and I am new to building. But I just glued some kerfed linings into a soprano uke using small spring clamps purchased here: Mini Spring Clamps. They worked pretty well for me. I found some similarly sized spring clamps at my local Home Depot for a little more money (the vinyl on the HD clamps is yellow, vs the black on the clamps from the link above). The HD clamps were OK, but the springs in the ones from Papa Johns Toolbox are little stronger. I've got some of the mini plastic spring clamps with the swivel pads. I'm sure they vary by manufacturer, but the springs in the ones I have are sort of weak. |
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| Author: | Sprockett [ Fri Mar 11, 2005 5:10 am ] |
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John let me know what they say, I would really like to get my hands on a set of those, I'm using the little paper clamps now and they work but I want something that is designed to flatten the kerfing down. Tracey... How would you manufacture them??, I'd love to get my hands on a couple of them to see how they work. I have some ideas that I would to try for them (like some sandpaper on both side to stop them from sliding and hold the kerfing down better).... Thanks -Paul- |
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| Author: | rlabbe [ Fri Mar 11, 2005 5:39 am ] |
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I'll second what TomS says. Those plastic ones are weak, and aren't strong enough to press the lining solidly against the side if there are any gaps. Plus, they kept breaking on me. The meal spring clamps, otoh, are great, and all I use these days. |
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| Author: | Dickey [ Fri Mar 11, 2005 5:44 am ] |
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| Author: | John Mayes [ Fri Mar 11, 2005 5:48 am ] |
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[QUOTE=rlabbe] I'll second what TomS says. Those plastic ones are weak, and aren't strong enough to press the lining solidly against the side if there are any gaps. Plus, they kept breaking on me. The meal spring clamps, otoh, are great, and all I use these days.[/QUOTE] That is what I'm using mainly too. The metal 1" spring clamps. They work well, but I would love to have something to get a little tighter, as well as I just like getting more tools ;) I have a friend here who is a service center for Taylor and he is calling them for me today. |
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| Author: | John Mayes [ Fri Mar 11, 2005 6:52 am ] |
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Ok so I ordered a set. In a set comes like 70 large clamps and 30-40 small clamps. I'll let you know how they are when I get em. Bought em straight from Taylor. For the whole set it was like $130. |
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| Author: | tl507362 [ Fri Mar 11, 2005 8:33 am ] |
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Paul, I can manufacture just about anything within reason since hooking up with a friend of mine who bought a CNC machine. He is an engineer, and a very accomplished wood worker, so nothing is beyond our capabilities(within reason). John, I'd love to hear your review of these clamps. I have never found a set that would take into consideration the point of the triangle, so the clamping pressure is not dispersed evenly across the whole lining. I think if you are using reverse linings, the little black paper clips work great, but the triangle linings are a little more difficult. John, maybe I can buy one from you so I can see if it can be duplicated. I could probably do this much cheaper than Taylor since I'm not into price gouging. Tracy |
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| Author: | Sprockett [ Fri Mar 11, 2005 10:24 am ] |
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MMMMMMMm CNC.... On my list of things I HAVE to have.... I just don't have the capitol yet... The only thing I'm not sure about is the rubber bands, but having clamps that would hold the kerfing down flat would be wonderful.. So on the manufacturing stuff, could you guys do templates if I cadded them?? I would pay if I could find someone to work with a newbie on this. I actually have cad drawings of all my guitars and their pieces, I did that so I can print out exact templates and then use those to make jigs, but I would give anything to start making aluminum and polycarb jigs from the drawings. I would love to lock down some parts to be the exact same each time I make them, it would free me up to do other things. I looked at an online CNC shop but found their software to be a little clunky and after reading reviews I was kind of worried based on problems some people had with them so I've been biding my time until I can get my own... Let me know, I'm very interested.... -Paul- |
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| Author: | tl507362 [ Fri Mar 11, 2005 10:40 am ] |
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Paul, You just tell me what you want made, and we can do it. We have every tool known to man, and with a 3d probe, we can replicate just about anything. Since we are just getting set up, it may take some time to figure out cost, as well as getting the parts for manufacturing, but it can be done. Send me an email that lists all the things you need done. I don't necessarily need the cad drawing, just the finished jig or part you want replicated. We can scan the finished product to come up with the duplication. I'm not really sure how all this works, but my friend says he can do just about anything. The only thing that would stop us is the cost of the parts and if the assembly process is too time consuming. But if you want bridges, fretboards, necks, etc. duplicated, we can do it. Tracy |
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| Author: | Sprockett [ Fri Mar 11, 2005 11:29 am ] |
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Well I can think of a couple right off the top of my head... 1. I want to make an aluminum template of my bridge pattern so I can drill them out the same everytime and set the saddle compensation slot. Later I want to make holders so I can I can shape it as well with a jig. 2. I want to make a polycarb piece that would place my bridge position and allow me to drill the two outer string holes and center it exactly over the fingerboard (Charles Fox has one like this and I working on one now for my Rio Grande model). 3. I want to make some aluminum jigs for doing the mortise and tenons so I can tighten my tolerances when building. I get pretty close by hand but have metal jigs would remove the human error part of it. 4. I want to make templates for doing headstocks and fingerboards to again remove my mistakes from the process. I've also been thinking of a system where you take a neck blank, drill 4 1/8" holes in the corners and through a series of jigs that use those holes for allignment you can make a neck blank and finger and have it ready for carving. I'd like to supply cad drawings because I can print them out and make sure the measurements are perfect before I spend any money. For my fingerboards I have templates I made by printing out the drawing and then gluing that to wood and making the pattern. I'll email you a more detailed list this weekend and we can get down to some serious discussions. This is so exciting 
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| Author: | Chas Freeborn [ Fri Mar 11, 2005 1:29 pm ] |
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LMI has some neat wood ones that are designed for kerfing. -C |
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| Author: | tl507362 [ Fri Mar 11, 2005 5:57 pm ] |
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Sounds like a plan Paul. Look forward to hearing more! Tracy |
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